Beginner Vs. Pro Video Marketing Cameras And Equipment

Last updated on June 15th, 2024

When you’re a marketer or a business owner, it’s hard to know what kind of video cameras and other equipment you should buy. Should you get the pro cameras, lighting, microphones and accessories? Or get the cheaper beginner stuff? Renee likes the high-quality equipment, but Dane likes the cheap stuff. Let’s see what they say.

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PRODUCTS MENTIONED:

Renee’s Recommendations:
– GoPro Hero 8
– DJI Osmo Mobile 3
– Westcott Flex Cine Bi-Color Mat
– Aputure AL-MX On-Camera Video Light
– Sennheiser MKH418S Wired Dual Capsule M/S Stereo Shotgun RF Condenser Microphone
– Shure SM7B Cardioid Dynamic Microphone
– Triton Audio – FetHead Preamp
– Panasonic Lumix DC-GH5S Camera
– Leica 25mm f/1.4 Lens
– Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 Lens
– Manfrotto Befree Tripod
– SwitchPod Tripod
– Adobe Premiere
– Envato Elements

Dane’s Recommendations:
– Neewer 18″ Ring Light
– Neewer Umbrella Lights
– Audio-Technica ATR2100-USB Cardioid Dynamic USB/XLR Microphone
– Shure X2U XLR-to-USB Signal Adapter
– Logitech C925e or C930e webcam
– Kensington Easy Riser Laptop and Tablet Cooling Stand
– Ultimaxx 75″ Lightweight Portable Aluminum Alloy Camera Tripod
– Roost Laptop Stand
– MOZA Mini-S Foldable 3-Axis Gimbal Stabilizer Smartphone Gimbal
– ScreenFlow

TRANSCRIPT

Dane Golden:
It’s time for the VidAction Podcast. This is the podcast where we help marketers and business owners just like you get more value out of your video marketing efforts. My name is Dane Golden from VidAction.tv, where we help you up your game on YouTube and transform your viewers into loyal customers. And I also work at VidTarget.io, where we help you save time and money through more targeted YouTube ads. And I’m here with my co-host. She’s the powerhouse video marketer from San Francisco. It’s R-E-N-E-E T-E-E-L-E-Y, Renee Teeley from VideoExplained. Hello, Renee.

Renee Teeley:
Hello, Dane. I always love the intro. It just sounds like I’m getting ready for a wrestling match. I love it, but I am fired up to be co-hosting this podcast with you today.

Dane Golden:
Fired up and are you thrilled?

Renee Teeley:
I’m always thrilled. I’m always thrilled. I’m always fired up and delighted all of the things to be doing this with you.

Dane Golden:
All of the things and Renee, what do you do at VideoExplained?

Renee Teeley:
Great question. So at VideoExplained we create videos and provide consulting services to help you leverage the power of video for business. So we do a lot of different things regarding video, but our sweet spot is really creating weekly video shows to drive strategic business results.

Dane Golden:
Okay. And you, the listener should always know that you can follow along on your podcast app with the transcript and the links, and please share a review us. It really does help. Renee, today’s topic that I suggested to you is this versus that on video equipment. And as you know, we often come from very different perspectives when it comes to video equipment, right?

Renee Teeley:
Yes, we do. Absolutely.

Dane Golden:
I would call you like a total gearhead. I think that that’s… Is that an accurate term? Do people say that? A gearhead?

Renee Teeley:
Yeah, and this is not the first time I’ve been called that, so yeah, I think that’s accurate.

Dane Golden:
Okay. And I think it’s great too, because you’re so talented in that area, but for my angle, I’m all about the tutorial video and anything that’s simple to use and learn and figure out and cheap. That’s what I’m about with helping businesses do. And I know you’re not totally averse to inexpensive equipment, but it’s just, it makes me cringe when I have to figure out features and things like that. I just want something to work. So I thought this would be a good idea to compare like my totally cheap-ass stuff with your really nice stuff.

Renee Teeley:
Yes, this is great. And I’m definitely not adverse to inexpensive items, but I do spend a lot of time researching different descriptions and things that equipment can do, so.

Dane Golden:
Okay. Now we’re going to, in the show notes, we’re also going to put our own affiliate links to Amazon and elsewhere. So you can vote as to whether you like Renee stuff or my stuff by clicking on our each individual affiliate links. How does that sound?

Renee Teeley:
That’s a great voting technique. I love it.

Dane Golden:
Okay. So here we go. You start.

Renee Teeley:
Okay. So in terms of production equipment, I think people often want to jump directly into cameras, but audio and lighting can be just as important if not more important for your video production quality. So if you have a limited budget and you can’t buy a new camera and new lighting equipment and new audio, I would recommend that you actually focus on lighting and audio. So for that reason, I want to start with lighting recommendations.

Dane Golden:
All right.

Renee Teeley:
Okay. So in terms of lighting full disclosure, I personally use a kit from iKan. It’s a three-point lighting system. It was about $2,000 when I bought it. I bought it about six years ago, but if I were buying a kit today, I would go with a set of Westcott Flex Cine Bi-Colored Mats. I know that’s a long title. And these mats are amazing. So they’re bi-colored, which means that you can use-

Dane Golden:
First of all, what’s a mat? I don’t know anything about this stuff. What’s a mat?

Renee Teeley:
… Yes. That’s a great question. So it is a pretty unique way of lighting things. And so when you think of a three-point lighting system, typically people think of light panels. So it’s just a light that you put on a stand, but the mats are super thin and flexible. So you can use these mats pretty much anywhere.

Dane Golden:
Oh yes, yes. Go on.

Renee Teeley:
And the mats themselves actually are magnetic. So if you’re in a spot where you’re not able to put the mats on a lighting stand, but there’s like a metal beam or something around, you can just literally connect the mats directly to the metal beam because they’re magnetic. So they’re really flexible in terms of literally flexible. Like you can fold them and do some interesting things with them, but it’s really flexible in terms of where you’re able to put them in your video production. So a lot of really interesting options with these.

Renee Teeley:
They are bi-colored, which means that you can use these in tungsten or daylight settings. I usually do daylight settings. They’re also battery-powered, and you can use an AC adapter if you want. So really interesting options with this. They are quite on the more expensive side. So for one lighting kit, which includes the stand and the mat and some different powering options, it’s about $1,250.

Dane Golden:
I’m not going to spend that money, but yeah, but if you’re a pro, totally.

Renee Teeley:
That’s quite expensive. I have one additional recommendation in terms of lighting kits. So this is something that I use often for running and gunning, or if I want just a really simple setup for when I’m traveling or doing videos at conferences. It’s called an Aputure AL-MX light. It’s very, very small. It’s just a little bit bigger than the size of a credit card. So very compact. It’s USB-powered. Again, it’s bi-colored. You can charge it through USB, so really easy way to charge it. And it’s very bright. So you can get a lot of light out of this very, very small device. It is a lot less expensive than the Westcott Flex Mat. It’s $149. And again, very easy to use. And you can just put it on the top of your camera, mount it to a hot shoe, nice, simple setup. And that’s just one light, a one-light setup. And what do you use?

Dane Golden:
Okay. For me, so I use the ring light and a lot of YouTubers use a ring light. This is 18 inches across. It’s a Neewer light and it’s listed currently at $135. But because I have glasses, I don’t use it head on. I thought that that would be what I wanted, but what happens if you have glasses is it just makes you look like you have bug eyes. So I just use it as on the side, sort of out of a reflection range. And I also use on the other… I think no one does lighting like this. I’ve never been satisfied with anybody who’s giving tips on how to light YouTubers with glasses, but I just have from my left and my right and a little bit of light sort of out of natural light from the window, usually in this setup I have now.

Dane Golden:
But on the left side, I just have some of some cheap umbrella lighting from Neewer also, that is, it’s this white light and has I’ve put in LED bulbs in there instead of compact fluorescent, because mostly because I’m usually just knocking over stuff. And I knew that the compact fluorescent would knock over, but I have two light bulbs on the same stand instead of one. And they’re just the white ones and, you know hey, it’s Portland. So if it rains, I can just take these umbrellas out too and use some when it rains.

Renee Teeley:
Multipurpose.

Dane Golden:
Yeah. So that the umbrella light was, I think this one says it doesn’t have the price, but it’s like $40 or something. Real cheap like that. And on the audio side, I’ve played around with a lot of cheap microphones. Again, we know I’m cheap and I also like testing things out that are cheap so I can recommend them to people. But I didn’t actually know the difference between the cardioid mic and whatever the other mic was. Dynamic, I guess. So I was using the dynamic all this time when I felt that that was actually not the one I should be using.

Dane Golden:
So years ago I used a cardioid mic and that I had great results and I couldn’t figure out what was going wrong. So what I use is I use a Audio-Technica ATR2100-USB Cardioid. And basically what that means to me is that it blocks out a lot of the surface noise. And it looks like everyone’s wanting to broadcast from home now. So not available on Amazon currently, but I think it was about $70 and it comes with two options. One is just a normal USB, which is fine, but actually I do an add-on that’s an old tool that still works for me. It’s called the Shure X2U. And what that does is it takes a USB or other type and connects that with the XLR, which is those three-pin things that you see on different types of mics. So it converts them and runs it right into my laptop. And this thing to me, it’s like a very, very tiny mixer because it helps me with levels. And ever since I started using that, my levels have gone back to being better. And so that’s what I use for my audio. How about you?

Renee Teeley:
That’s really interesting, actually. So I have just a question about the X2U.

Dane Golden:
No questions. Move on.

Renee Teeley:
No questions. So essentially that is connecting your XLR microphone through converting it to USB and that’s what you connect to your computer. Is that correct?

Dane Golden:
Yeah, that’s right.

Renee Teeley:
Does it also serve as a preamp?

Dane Golden:
I don’t know. I don’t know what that is. I don’t think so. It has something on it called a phase or phaser or Plus 48V or something like that, but it’s not needed whatever that thing was.

Renee Teeley:
Yeah. That’s for phantom power.

Dane Golden:
Phantom not phase, yeah.

Renee Teeley:
Yeah. Yes. That’s for phantom power. Okay. So I actually have two primary microphones that I use. I have one that’s similar to yours, but I use a Shure SMB, sorry, Shure SM7B and I primarily use that when I’m doing any recording at my computer. So it’s also the microphone that I’m using for this podcast. I use a preamp as well, and the preamp, basically it will take the signal from my microphone and increase the volume a bit before it even gets to the computer. This type of microphone tends to run on the quiet side. So the preamp helps with that. And the preamp that I use it basically just connects from the XLR into my audio interface that connects to my computer. And the preamp is called a FetHead Preamp and it’s $89.

Dane Golden:
Wait, is that on this list? Is that on this list?

Renee Teeley:
It is.

Dane Golden:
Oh, here it is. Yeah. Okay. Go on.

Renee Teeley:
I just reversed the order of how I was talking about stuff. Yes. So that’s the preamp, that’s the microphone setup that I use for anything that I’m recording at my computer. However, when I’m doing most of my video production with just my regular camera and lighting setup, not at my computer, I use a boom mic also sometimes referred to as a shotgun mic. And that’s a Sennheiser MKH418S, so long name. We’re going to have links to everything in the description show notes, but that it’s a boom mic. And that basically sits, I put it on a stand and that’s the mic that’s kind of above me when I’m recording anything. It’s $1,650. So it is expensive, but I think it’s amazing quality. I’ve had it for many years, and I don’t think that I will need to upgrade for many, many years.

Dane Golden:
So before we leave audio, as we were talking before the show, I just use this little tripod that comes with the mic that’s a few inches off the ground and the cables run right onto the desk that I’m working on, which is fine, except for as the listener will hear, as I’m moving things around, you can hear me tapping the cable on the table. And that creates these tapping that because I’m recording on Skype, I don’t hear them when I’m recording and it just ends up being in the show. So it’s a little trick to remember to not touch it, but I’m like, why do I need to spend $2,000 on a mic holder? I’ll just go with the taps.

Renee Teeley:
No. So the Sennheiser is for a shotgun mic, a boom mic when I’m doing video production, but in terms of using my Shure microphones, so for this podcast, I do use a holder for my microphone so that I don’t have the XLR cables on my desk, but I use something called the RODE Podcaster Arm, and it basically connects to my desk and it has an articulating arm. And that connects to my microphone.

Dane Golden:
You have two arms?

Renee Teeley:
I have two arms.

Dane Golden:
You got some more arms than like the space shuttle with its Canadian arm that reaches out and grabs things in space, right?

Renee Teeley:
The Podcaster setup is it’s one articulating arm. So that means that when I connect my microphone to it, it’s really easy for me to adjust the microphone to exactly where I want it to be in front of me. And also when I’m sitting at my computer, because I always have it connected to my desk. I can easily get the microphone out of my way so I can move it up and down and just kind of put it behind my computer if I want. So it’s really nice. The other thing that it does is it helps to make sure that the microphone is not picking up any vibration. So if you accidentally-

Dane Golden:
Do what I’m doing.

Renee Teeley:
… Yes. It helps with that. Exactly.

Dane Golden:
The articulating arm. So I forgot one of the other reasons I like using the tripod is because I don’t like having a mic in my face when I record videos and I’m just recording off my well, a webcam on top of my laptop. And I just point it in a way where the mic is. It’s still just a few inches from my mouth, but it’s out of the camera angle. And I like that look.

Renee Teeley:
Yeah, you can do that with the RODE Podcaster Mic as well.

Dane Golden:
Oh, all right.

Renee Teeley:
Yes. You have a lot of options in terms of how you position it and yes.

Dane Golden:
Put that in the links too, because that’s not in the links.

Renee Teeley:
Yep. I’ll put that in the links. It’s actually quite, it’s quite handy. And the nice thing too, is that it can pretty much attach to any type of desk and you don’t have to drill any holes or anything like that in your desk. It just kind of clamps on and it just is nice because I can leave my microphone here on my desk, but get out of my way when I need.

Dane Golden:
If I’m not going to buy an expensive arm, I’m not going to buy an expensive drill. So yes, then I’m going to need that.

Renee Teeley:
Yeah. I don’t have the price in front of me, but I thinK that-

Dane Golden:
How much is the drill?

Renee Teeley:
… I do have a drill too actually.

Dane Golden:
I’m sure you do. Is it Bluetooth connected?

Renee Teeley:
No, but if there is one, I might look into that. No, but the RODE microphone the podcasting arm I think is around $100. So it’s not too expensive.

Dane Golden:
All right. So onward what’s next?

Renee Teeley:
Onward. So next step. So we’ve talked about lighting and audio. I think it’s a natural time to just jump in to cameras. So for me, I kind of fluctuate between a couple of different cameras, but my primary camera is a Panasonic GH5S. I used to use a really expensive Canon camera. And when I wanted to upgrade to 4K upgrading with that set type of system would have been $7,000 to $9,000. And that was just more than I wanted to spend. So I do have times when I go with the cheaper route as well. But the Panasonic it’s great. I think it’s really compact. It’s capable of very high-quality 4K footage. They’ve had some improvements on the auto-focus. I don’t usually use auto-focus, but if you do, it’s capable of that. So you can kind of set it and then jump in front of the camera and it can do the focusing for you. That camera is about probably about $1500 right now or in that range. And that’s just for the camera body itself.

Renee Teeley:
I have a couple of lenses that I recommend as my go-to lenses. So for that camera, I would use the lens that I really love is Leica 25mm lens. And it has an f-stop of 1.4. And why that matters is because if you’re looking to do quality video, it’s a nice feature to be able to have that blurry background shallowed up the field. And it’s easier to get that when you have a lower number on your f-stop. So 1.4 is quite low. It’s easy to get a nice blurry background with that. That lens is just a little bit under $600, still a little bit pricey for a lens.

Renee Teeley:
If you want something a little bit less expensive, another quality lens for the Panasonic GH5S is a Panasonic 20mm lens and that’s a 1.7 f-stop. That’s a wide angle lens, which is nice because you can have the camera fairly close to you in that case. And that lens is about $260.

Dane Golden:
You lost me at f-stop.

Renee Teeley:
That is getting a little bit technical, but yeah, the reason I recommend using a nice DSLR kind of camera is so that you can get that nice blurry background and shallow depth of field. There are a couple of other cameras that I use. That’s my main camera. When I’m doing any handheld stuff, if I don’t need super high-quality videos, I’ll just use my GoPro HERO8 which has stabilization built into it. So you can literally just hold the GoPro and still get nice stable footage. And that is capable of 4K as well. So some interesting options, and I think the GoPro runs, I want to say around $500 and you don’t need any additional lenses for that.

Dane Golden:
I don’t think I would even use any of this stuff if somebody sent me a free one. I just am like, I don’t want to take the time to figure it out. But if it’s easy, I would probably do it. And they all have cards. Right. And I could just put that card somewhere.

Renee Teeley:
Yes. Yeah. I mean, I think even with the GoPro, it’s good to at least understand what the settings do so that you can change it for different scenarios. But the GoPro is pretty easy. I mean, you can set it up in front of you and just press record and you’re ready to go. I think even you could do that, Dane.

Dane Golden:
I’m just so laughing because I’m like, no, I just cringe at anytime somebody says, you’re going to have to figure this thing out. I just want it to be easy. And I spent so much time figuring other stuff out that the equipment just drives me crazy, but I will say, I know that for some other people, it’s just second nature to them and they can totally do this. And I commend you for that because your stuff looks and sounds a lot better than mine.

Renee Teeley:
Thank you. I think one of my favorite pastimes is researching and I needed to do a lot of research when it comes to buying gear. So it works out.

Dane Golden:
So I use a webcam mostly now. The Logitech C925e webcam, it’s an external webcam, except when I just do casual Zoom calls with clients or whatever. Generally, I don’t do that. But if I’m recording a video, I will use it. And I think I got it for like $75 on Amazon, but I’ve noticed that pretty much, even from the companies themselves, the cost of the webcam is at least doubled. I’m looking at it now on Amazon, it says $200, which I don’t… I think I’ve seen all of these things, even from the manufacturer double or triple in price, since everyone is now working from home and they want to be seen well. So I guess that’s why that is. But I use also my iPhone when I’m walking around shooting videos, but I don’t do that much anymore. Or when I do stand-ups, I will do the phone on a tripod, which my tripod right now, what I’m using is just a laptop stand.

Dane Golden:
So I just prop it up on the Kensington Easy Riser laptop. And I’ve tried a few of these. There’s something called a Roost and that can work well, but I noticed I was always knocking it. But this is just a plastic stand that when I open up my laptop, it sort of makes the camera size at eye level. And that works well for me. I used to have one of these things a long time ago, or maybe this is the thing I still have and then I lost it and I got another, but I’ve had this thing for like 10 years, I guess. And it still works in exactly the way I like it.

Dane Golden:
But I do have a simple tripod that I think is an AmazonBasics Tripod. And I don’t have it in my list here, but I’ll put it in. And that was, I made sure it was taller than me because I like looking down at me when I’m standing up and then I put a shoe on there that holds the phone. So I think it was like 70 inches high, but it was like $35 and you know, real simple. What do you use for tripods?

Renee Teeley:
Well, first off, did I hear you correct? Did you say you use a shoe?

Dane Golden:
Yeah. Isn’t that a shoe? Isn’t that what you hold something in and you fix it?

Renee Teeley:
Oh, the hot shoe.

Dane Golden:
You fix it to the tripod. Am I using the wrong language?

Renee Teeley:
No, no, no, no, that’s correct. Okay. So it’s a hot shoe or a cold shoe and a hot shoe means that your camera is powering whatever is in that spot. And if it’s a cold shoe, that means that your camera isn’t powering it.

Dane Golden:
Oh, I’m cold shoe all the way.

Renee Teeley:
Cold shoe.

Dane Golden:
But you actually thought I was so cheap that I was using an actual shoe.

Renee Teeley:
I know that you have some very creative setups. We’ve talked about your creative set ups in the past.

Dane Golden:
Like what? What type of thing did I use? Did I use a sandal? What was it?

Renee Teeley:
No, even so not shoe-related, but even in terms of how you’re setting up your webcam is pretty interesting. Instead of using a traditional tripod, using some type of laptop stand. It’s interesting. So this isn’t a tripod, but I know that you also use when doing more handheld stuff that you also use some type of gimbal?

Dane Golden:
Right.

Renee Teeley:
Yeah. And oftentimes you with a gimbal, you can put a tripod at the bottom of that.

Dane Golden:
That’s right.

Renee Teeley:
Yeah. So that’s another option for tripods. I personally, when I’m traveling and actually even in my home studio, I tend to use this tripod just because it’s pretty easy to use, but I use a Manfrotto Befree. It is primarily created as a travel tripod. And I started using this because I do a lot of production at conferences. And so instead of bringing big tripod with me when I’m traveling, I just have this really lightweight tripod, but that is still feels solid. And it’s Manfrotto so it’s quality built. It is, I think I paid around $250, but now it’s a little bit cheaper, so you can get it for about $180.

Renee Teeley:
So that’s the main tripod that I’m using. And then I also use a gimbal like you do. We use different gimbals, but I use a gimbal when I’m doing some handheld videos, but the other type of, kind of tripod-esque device that I use is called a SwitchPod. And a SwitchPod is really meant for vloggers. So for someone who’s pointing a camera at themselves as they’re walking around. Now, the SwitchPod is not a gimbal, which means that if you’re using a camera that doesn’t have built-in stabilization and you’re using the SwitchPod, you will get some shake. Like it will look, it won’t be quite as shaky as if you were just holding the camera with your hand if it wasn’t a handheld, but it still will get a little bit of shake to that. So it’s better to use the SwitchPod if you have something that has some type of stabilization.

Renee Teeley:
But the nice thing about the SwitchPod is that you can easily switch between holding the SwitchPod and holding your camera, and then also kind of spreading out, there’s like legs on it, spreading out the legs on the SwitchPod and using it as a tabletop tripod.

Dane Golden:
The tripod just flips open with the flick of a finger.

Renee Teeley:
Yes. Well, I mean, they say that it does that and I’ve seen a lot of other people doing it that way. I haven’t perfected the flick. So for me, I actually have to intentionally spread that out and then use that as a tabletop tripod. But that’s the general idea and that’s around, it’s around $100.

Dane Golden:
Let me add, because you asked about my gimbal. So I’ve done a number of videos where I use the MOZA Gimbal and I’ll put a link to that also. The reason I got it is because I was looking for something like this and Sean Cannell reviewed it and I basically trust everything he says, so I just get whatever he tells me to, except I always get the cheapest one. So I don’t have to do really any research. I just let him do the research and then I go to his channel and, you know Think Media and he’s already told me what to get. So that makes it easier for me. But I have added two flavors on that. And that is, I add an extender because I want the gimbal to be looking down at me when I’m walking and talking. Or I now I’ve tried the SwitchPod on the bottom as well. And that works really great too. I don’t know of anyone else who use extender on the bottom of a gimbal, but I do.

Renee Teeley:
So you use the SwitchPod, you screw it into the bottom of your gimbal.

Dane Golden:
Yeah.

Renee Teeley:
That is a really interesting.

Dane Golden:
Yeah. And it works great because you can also set it down, so you can walk and talk and you set it down. It’s just taller.

Renee Teeley:
Yeah. Interesting. I would like to see that at a conference. I haven’t seen anyone using that set up before. Yep. I have a feeling that I use the more expensive version of your gimbal. So I use the Osmo Mobile 3 and that’s when I’m using that it’s primarily when I’m doing videos with my iPhone. But I think it’s pretty similar to what you use.

Dane Golden:
Well again, Yeah. I don’t have a regular camera so I’m using it on a phone. Yeah.

Renee Teeley:
Yeah. Interesting. So what do you use in terms of editing software?

Dane Golden:
Well, so I think both of us, we’ve both used editing people to use it, but we still do our own editing in some areas. So for video editing, not audio editing, I’ve decided I just keep coming back to it. I just keep coming back to ScreenFlow. I’ve tried Premiere, I’ve tried iMovie. I just, the types of videos that I’m interested in doing, they’re mostly talking heads. They’re a lot of times it’s real simple graphics. I want it to be fast to cut. I actually edit video more like, because I came from audio editing, which I don’t know much about either, but I’m really good at pacing audio.

Dane Golden:
If you’ve ever listened to this podcast, you’ve probably never noticed an edit because when I edit and the guy who sometimes edits it for me, Jason, we both edit in a way that has a super awesome flow, but I actually edit my videos like I edit my audios and that the audio sounds very smooth, but the video has a lot of jump cuts in it. And ScreenFlow allows me to do that very well and easily and quickly. It also allows me to do very simple screen shares, which I really believe in for tutorial video marketing. And I help a lot of SaaS companies. So this is a type of thing that I continue to try to master so I can help them learn it. So that’s why I believe in ScreenFlow. It’s just basic enough for me to understand it, but complicated enough that I can figure out a couple of things.

Renee Teeley:
Do you use ScreenFlow even when you’re doing videos that are not tutorial-based and not actually recording your computer screen. So even for the videos of like talking-head videos that you record with your webcam?

Dane Golden:
Yeah.

Renee Teeley:
Interesting. So I use ScreenFlow for creating tutorials. So anytime I’m actually going to do a screencast of what I’m showing on my computer, I’ll use ScreenFlow for that. I think it’s a great tool. When I’m doing editing for my regular kind of YouTube talking-heads sort of videos I use Adobe Premiere. And the reason that I like Adobe Premiere is that there’s a lot of plugins that work well with it. And I also use sometimes I’ll use graphics from a site called Envato Elements. And so if I want to use like templates or lower third graphics and different things like that, it’s really easy to find stuff that works with Adobe Premiere. And I’m very particular sometimes with my editing so-

Dane Golden:
What?

Renee Teeley:
… Yes. I know, astonishing. But yeah, I can do exactly what I need to do with Adobe Premiere. And in some other editing platforms, I don’t have as much control. So that’s the platform that I tend to use.

Dane Golden:
I think I should also emphasize I’m not really just editing, but I’m actually recording everything live directly into ScreenFlow as it’s happening. So there’ll be some edits later, but I’m recording a video feed directly into it, through my webcam. I’m recording a screen capture and I’m recording my audio, everything right into it so it’s already in the timeline and then I begin editing. And that’s one of those things I just decided I need to save all that time because all the importing and changing wasn’t really making it any better with both the meager skills that I have and also the meager interest I have in optimizing all that stuff.

Renee Teeley:
Well, I love the quality of your videos. So whatever you’re doing is working. Yes.

Dane Golden:
Great. And make sure people can see the links to this in the show notes that are connected. Just click on the show notes area in the app that you’re listening to. And my name is Dane Golden and my co-host, she’s R-E-N-E-E T-E-E-L-E-Y. I was going to misspell it on purpose to see if you would notice. Would you have?

Renee Teeley:
I mean, I know how to spell my name. So I think that I would have.

Dane Golden:
But the way I say it is so fast and weird.

Renee Teeley:
Yeah. But I hear it a lot too, the way that you say it. And so I think I would have noticed that something is just a little off.

Dane Golden:
I’m going to spell gibberish next time. Renee Teeley, and we want to thank you the listener for joining us today. Right, Renee?

Renee Teeley:
Yes, absolutely. And we hope that you love this podcast just as much as we do.

Dane Golden:
And I want to invite you, the listener to review us on Apple Podcast. And if you can’t find that review button on your podcast, click the share button instead. It’s right next to where that review button should have been. Right, Renee?

Renee Teeley:
Yes.

Dane Golden:
And let your friends know that we’d also like to help them learn about video marketing through this podcast. Renee and I do this podcast and our various other YouTube videos and other projects because we love helping marketers and business owners just like you do YouTube and video marketing better. Until next week, here’s to helping you help your customers through video.